Exzerpieren des Films "Here is Germany" - bin am verzweifeln
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modestmouse23
Exzerpieren des Films "Here is Germany" - bin am verzweifeln
Hallo!
Ich bin gerade dabei für meine Bachelor-Arbeit den Sprechertext eines Films zu exzerpieren (sprich: Ich schreibe den Text des Kommentators auf). Meistens versteht man den amerikanischen Sprecher recht gut, aber hier und da habe ich doch einige Probleme.
EDIT: ADMIN
Und hier ist das, was ich herausgehört habe. Findet ihr Fehler? Bzw. könnt ihr mir bei den Sätzen helfen, die ich nicht verstehe/rot markiert habe? (Es geht zwar noch weiter, aber ich poste erst mal den Anfang.) Vielen lieben Dank im Voraus!
This was Germany – a beautiful country. A historic country. A prosperous country. A modern country. The german people are clean and tidy people and educated people and musical people and industrious people. These people look alright. The mailman, the farmer, the cop – they all look pretty much like folks back home. Holding down jobs, raising families, enjoying life, they certainly look like the kind of people we can understand – OR CAN WE? A quiet, decent people who prepare 20 years to bring war into the world, a religious people who burn churches and prison ministers, persecute the faithful, a kindly people who accept blood purges, pogroms, concentration camps, a gentle people, who torture, starve, exterminate.These were men, they died in German concentration camps. These, too, were men, they get knocked by day (?). These bones were men, women and childrend stamped to be exterminated in the German death factory. This is a scientifically designed gas chamber. This the furnace for burning the corpses. This the clothing of the victims which the Germans methodically salvaged. These the childrens’ toys carefully collected for the use of German children. These are objects of art made by German guards – objects of art made of human skin. These were Poles murdered by the Germans before they left Lubliniec. These were Italiens murdered by the Germans before they left Rome. These were Belgiens murdered by the Germans before they left Banday. These were Americans, defenseless prisoners of war, murdered by the Germans near Malmedy. These are some of the reasons why the German farmer, and the German mailman, and the German cop can’t be quite like the people back home. That’s why we’ve got to look a little deeper into the German character. The character of a people who blenched the world into two wars in one generation. And each time plained that they were victims of the past (?). That’s the puzzle we’ve got to solve if we want to save our childrend from a thrird war. The puzzle of that clean and industrious people, fond of kids, fond of music, fond of tyranny, fond of aggression, fond of gas chambers. What gave the Germans their character? What makes them think, act, feel this way? Hitler would have answered: “German blood.” We don’t take so hopeless of you. Too many of our friends and neighbours have had German blood. That same blood that we have seen in great Americans. For what makes an American is not any special, precious sort of blood, but the tradition we have inherited. It’s tradition, not blood that patterns the way we think and act and feel. Our ancestors came here to escape tyranny – that’s part of the American tradition. That’s why no American can believe in any government that is not of the people, by the people and for the people. They came to be able to pray in any way they wanted or in any church they wanted. That’s why freedom of religion is part of our tradition. In school we learn that none of us is any better than any other American or anybody else in the world for that matter. But there is no privileged view that all men have equal rights. That’s the tradition we were brought up in, at home, at school, among our friends, at our jobs. That is the tradition that is made us what we are. Now, what is the tradition that has made this man? How does is differ from ours? That’s what we have to find out. These Germans were selected by Nazi cameras as ideal German types. Let’s call one of them “Karl Schmidt”. A self-term member of the master race, who goose stepped his way across the entire cart (?). His father did the same goose step and followed the same road of conquest. And the grandfather of Karl Schmidt did the same goose step and rather the same path of aggression. The same goose step, the same will of aggression, the same lust for conquest. You knew their leader as Hitler, your father knews the leader as the Kaiser, your grandfather remembers Bismarck. You faced the Nazi … (?) , your fathers’ generation was threatened by the huns and in your grandfathers days there were the prussians. The Nazis, the huns, the prussians. Three different names for three generations of Germans attempting to inflict their will upon others by force. Three generations following a tradition so different from ours.
Ich bin gerade dabei für meine Bachelor-Arbeit den Sprechertext eines Films zu exzerpieren (sprich: Ich schreibe den Text des Kommentators auf). Meistens versteht man den amerikanischen Sprecher recht gut, aber hier und da habe ich doch einige Probleme.
EDIT: ADMIN
Und hier ist das, was ich herausgehört habe. Findet ihr Fehler? Bzw. könnt ihr mir bei den Sätzen helfen, die ich nicht verstehe/rot markiert habe? (Es geht zwar noch weiter, aber ich poste erst mal den Anfang.) Vielen lieben Dank im Voraus!
This was Germany – a beautiful country. A historic country. A prosperous country. A modern country. The german people are clean and tidy people and educated people and musical people and industrious people. These people look alright. The mailman, the farmer, the cop – they all look pretty much like folks back home. Holding down jobs, raising families, enjoying life, they certainly look like the kind of people we can understand – OR CAN WE? A quiet, decent people who prepare 20 years to bring war into the world, a religious people who burn churches and prison ministers, persecute the faithful, a kindly people who accept blood purges, pogroms, concentration camps, a gentle people, who torture, starve, exterminate.These were men, they died in German concentration camps. These, too, were men, they get knocked by day (?). These bones were men, women and childrend stamped to be exterminated in the German death factory. This is a scientifically designed gas chamber. This the furnace for burning the corpses. This the clothing of the victims which the Germans methodically salvaged. These the childrens’ toys carefully collected for the use of German children. These are objects of art made by German guards – objects of art made of human skin. These were Poles murdered by the Germans before they left Lubliniec. These were Italiens murdered by the Germans before they left Rome. These were Belgiens murdered by the Germans before they left Banday. These were Americans, defenseless prisoners of war, murdered by the Germans near Malmedy. These are some of the reasons why the German farmer, and the German mailman, and the German cop can’t be quite like the people back home. That’s why we’ve got to look a little deeper into the German character. The character of a people who blenched the world into two wars in one generation. And each time plained that they were victims of the past (?). That’s the puzzle we’ve got to solve if we want to save our childrend from a thrird war. The puzzle of that clean and industrious people, fond of kids, fond of music, fond of tyranny, fond of aggression, fond of gas chambers. What gave the Germans their character? What makes them think, act, feel this way? Hitler would have answered: “German blood.” We don’t take so hopeless of you. Too many of our friends and neighbours have had German blood. That same blood that we have seen in great Americans. For what makes an American is not any special, precious sort of blood, but the tradition we have inherited. It’s tradition, not blood that patterns the way we think and act and feel. Our ancestors came here to escape tyranny – that’s part of the American tradition. That’s why no American can believe in any government that is not of the people, by the people and for the people. They came to be able to pray in any way they wanted or in any church they wanted. That’s why freedom of religion is part of our tradition. In school we learn that none of us is any better than any other American or anybody else in the world for that matter. But there is no privileged view that all men have equal rights. That’s the tradition we were brought up in, at home, at school, among our friends, at our jobs. That is the tradition that is made us what we are. Now, what is the tradition that has made this man? How does is differ from ours? That’s what we have to find out. These Germans were selected by Nazi cameras as ideal German types. Let’s call one of them “Karl Schmidt”. A self-term member of the master race, who goose stepped his way across the entire cart (?). His father did the same goose step and followed the same road of conquest. And the grandfather of Karl Schmidt did the same goose step and rather the same path of aggression. The same goose step, the same will of aggression, the same lust for conquest. You knew their leader as Hitler, your father knews the leader as the Kaiser, your grandfather remembers Bismarck. You faced the Nazi … (?) , your fathers’ generation was threatened by the huns and in your grandfathers days there were the prussians. The Nazis, the huns, the prussians. Three different names for three generations of Germans attempting to inflict their will upon others by force. Three generations following a tradition so different from ours.
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Duckduck (Contributor)
Re: Exzerpieren des Films "Here is Germany" - bin am verzweifeln
modestmouse23 hat geschrieben:Hallo!
Ich bin gerade dabei für meine Bachelor-Arbeit den Sprechertext eines Films zu exzerpieren (sprich: Ich schreibe den Text des Kommentators auf). Meistens versteht man den amerikanischen Sprecher recht gut, aber hier und da habe ich doch einige Probleme.
EDIT: ADMIN
Und hier ist das, was ich herausgehört habe. Findet ihr Fehler? Bzw. könnt ihr mir bei den Sätzen helfen, die ich nicht verstehe/rot markiert habe? (Es geht zwar noch weiter, aber ich poste erst mal den Anfang.) Vielen lieben Dank im Voraus!
Willkommen im Forum, Mäuschen!
Da hast Du uns aber eine ganz schöne Aufgabe gestellt. Habe mir den Film angeschaut. WOW! Hier meine Korrekturen. Übrigens, Du transskribierst. Exzerpieren heißt kurze Textauszüge zu einem bestimmten Thema aus einem vorliegenden Text rausschreiben.
This was Germany – a beautiful country. A historic country. A prosperous country. A modern country. The German people: a clean and tidy people, an educated people, a musical people, an industrious people. These people look alright. The mailman, the farmer, the cop – they all look pretty much like the folks back home. Holding down => dies ergibt keinen rechten Sinn für mich: Auf, ihr Muttersprachler, bitte lauschen!!! jobs, raising families, enjoying life, they certainly look like the kind of people we can understand – OR CAN WE? A quiet, decent people who prepare 20 years to bring war into the world, a religious people who burn churches, imprison ministers, persecute the faithful, a kindly people who accept blood purges, pogroms, concentration camps, a gentle people, who torture, starve, exterminate. These were men, they died in German concentration camps. These, too, were men, they did not quite die. These bones were men, women and children, stamped to be exterminated in the German death factory. This is a scientifically designed gas chamber. This the furnace for burning the corpses. This the clothing of the victims which the Germans methodically salvaged. These the childrens’ toys, carefully collected for the use of German children. These are objects of art made by German guards – objects of art made of human skin. These were Poles murdered by the Germans before they left Lublin. These were Italians murdered by the Germans before they left Rome. These were Belgians murdered by the Germans before they left Banday kenne ich leider nicht. These were Americans, defenseless prisoners of war, murdered by the Germans near Malmedy. These are some of the reasons why the German farmer, and the German mailman, and the German cop can’t be quite like the people back home. That’s why we’ve got to look a little deeper into the German character. The character of a people who plunged the world into two wars in one generation. And each time claimed that they were victims of attack. That’s the puzzle we’ve got to solve if we are to save our childrendfrom a thrird war. The puzzle of that clean and industrious people, fond of kids, fond of music, fond of tyranny, fond of aggression, fond of gas chambers. What gave the Germans that character? What makes them think, act, feel this way? Hitler would have answered: “German blood.” We don’t take so hopeless a view. Too many of our friends and neighbours have had German blood. That same blood that we have seen in great Americans. For what makes an American is not any special, precious sort of blood, but the tradition we have inherited. It’s tradition, not blood that patterns the way we think and act and feel. Our ancestors came here to escape tyranny – that’s part of the American tradition. That’s why no American can believe in any government that is not of the people, by the people and for the people. They came to be able to pray in any way they wanted or in any church they wanted. That’s why freedom of religion is part of our tradition. In school we learn that none of us is any better than any other American or anybody else in the world for that matter. But there is no privileged view kann ich leider auch nicht verstehen that all men have equal rights. That’s the tradition we were brought up in, at home, at school, among our friends, at our jobs. That is the tradition that has made us what we are. Now, what is the tradition that has made this man? How does is differ from ours? That’s what we have to find out. These Germans were selected by Nazi cameras as ideal German types. Let’s call one of them “Karl Schmidt”. A self-termed member of the master race, who goose stepped his way across the entire continent. His father did the same goose step and followed the same road of conquest. And the grandfather of Karl Schmidt did the same goose step and trod the same path of aggression. The same goose step, the same will of aggression, the same lust for conquest. You knew their leader as Hitler, your father knewsthe leader as the Kaiser, your grandfather remembers Bismarck. You faced the Nazi menace, your fathers’ generation was threatened by the Huns and in your grandfathers' days there were the Prussians. The Nazis, the Huns, the Prussians. Three different names for three generations of Germans attempting to inflict their will upon others by force. Three generations following a tradition so different from ours.
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caro64
Re: Exzerpieren des Films "Here is Germany" - bin am verzweifeln
What the ****! Why did you pick this?modestmouse23 hat geschrieben:Hallo!
Ich bin gerade dabei für meine Bachelor-Arbeit den Sprechertext eines Films zu exzerpieren (sprich: Ich schreibe den Text des Kommentators auf). Meistens versteht man den amerikanischen Sprecher recht gut, aber hier und da habe ich doch einige Probleme.
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caro64
Re: Exzerpieren des Films "Here is Germany" - bin am verzweifeln
@modestmouse23, you should have pointed out that the video contains pictures/scenes that are not quite suitable for children or people like me
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modestmouse23
Re: Exzerpieren des Films "Here is Germany" - bin am verzweifeln
@Duckduck
Ohje, da habe ich teilweise ganz schönen Mist fabriziert, was? (Vor allen Dingen gleich zu Beginn der exzerpieren/transkribieren-Fehler - peinlich! Sorry!)
Zu "holding down jobs" (= einer Arbeit nachgehen), s. folgender Link: http://www.phrasen.com/uebersetze,to-ho ... 081,e.html
Ich finde, dass das Sinn macht oder nicht?
Was könnte das denn bloß für eine Stadt in Belgien sein? Ich habe einfach nach Gehör aufgeschrieben, eine Google-Suche hat aber nichts ergeben... hm... Mist.
@caro64
Ich hätte eine Warnung aussprechen sollen, bevor man unwissentlich den Link anklickt. Tut mir leid. Die Bilder am Anfang sind wirklich grauenhaft. :/ Ich schreibe meine Arbeit über das Thema "Re-Education durch Dokumentarfilm"... und da passt der Film eben wie Arsch auf Eimer. Zum Glück geht es NICHT NUR um Gräuelbilder... Do you speak German? I hope you understand my writing...
Ohje, da habe ich teilweise ganz schönen Mist fabriziert, was? (Vor allen Dingen gleich zu Beginn der exzerpieren/transkribieren-Fehler - peinlich! Sorry!)
Zu "holding down jobs" (= einer Arbeit nachgehen), s. folgender Link: http://www.phrasen.com/uebersetze,to-ho ... 081,e.html
Ich finde, dass das Sinn macht oder nicht?
Was könnte das denn bloß für eine Stadt in Belgien sein? Ich habe einfach nach Gehör aufgeschrieben, eine Google-Suche hat aber nichts ergeben... hm... Mist.
@caro64
Ich hätte eine Warnung aussprechen sollen, bevor man unwissentlich den Link anklickt. Tut mir leid. Die Bilder am Anfang sind wirklich grauenhaft. :/ Ich schreibe meine Arbeit über das Thema "Re-Education durch Dokumentarfilm"... und da passt der Film eben wie Arsch auf Eimer. Zum Glück geht es NICHT NUR um Gräuelbilder... Do you speak German? I hope you understand my writing...
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Duckduck (Contributor)
Re: Exzerpieren des Films "Here is Germany" - bin am verzweifeln
Huhu, prima, danke für den link, die Formulierung kannte ich nicht, wieder was gelernt!
Ich bin sicher, dass Du in Deiner Arbeit darauf hinweisen wirst, dass dieser "Dokumentarfilm" in erster Linie ein Propagandafilm war?
Auf gar keinen Fall würde ich die Fakten des Filmes anzweifeln wollen, aber die Darstellung der Zusammenhänge ist doch sehr vereinfacht und die allgemeine Aussage - verständlicherweise?! - sehr durch die zweifelsohne begangenen Greueltaten des deutschen Volkes geprägt.
Vielleicht ist dieser Film nur einer von mehreren, die Du bearbeitest? Denn re-education, stelle ich mir vor, soll ja nicht gerade eine Gehirnwäsche und Zementierung von nur teilweise wahren Vorurteilen sein, oder?
Nur ein kleiner Hinweis
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Grüße
Duckduck
P.S. Habe fleißig gegoogelt und nun auch den Ort des Massakers in Belgien gefunden: Baugnez
Sieh hier, wenn Du magst:
http://www.schwarzaufweiss.de/belgien/w ... augnez.htm
Ich bin sicher, dass Du in Deiner Arbeit darauf hinweisen wirst, dass dieser "Dokumentarfilm" in erster Linie ein Propagandafilm war?
Auf gar keinen Fall würde ich die Fakten des Filmes anzweifeln wollen, aber die Darstellung der Zusammenhänge ist doch sehr vereinfacht und die allgemeine Aussage - verständlicherweise?! - sehr durch die zweifelsohne begangenen Greueltaten des deutschen Volkes geprägt.
Vielleicht ist dieser Film nur einer von mehreren, die Du bearbeitest? Denn re-education, stelle ich mir vor, soll ja nicht gerade eine Gehirnwäsche und Zementierung von nur teilweise wahren Vorurteilen sein, oder?
Nur ein kleiner Hinweis
Grüße
Duckduck
P.S. Habe fleißig gegoogelt und nun auch den Ort des Massakers in Belgien gefunden: Baugnez
Sieh hier, wenn Du magst:
http://www.schwarzaufweiss.de/belgien/w ... augnez.htm
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Duckduck (Contributor)
Re: Exzerpieren des Films "Here is Germany" - bin am verzweifeln
Huch, da hatte ich noch etwas überlesen:
These bones were men, women and children, sent to be exterminated...
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modestmouse23
Re: Exzerpieren des Films "Here is Germany" - bin am verzweifeln
Super, dann wäre das Belgien-Problem jetzt auch gelöst.
Bleibt nur noch die Frage, ob der Sprecher "But there is no privileged view" sagt oder irgendetwas komplett anderes.
Natürlich ist das ein Propagandafilm - dazu bekannten sich die amerikanischen Filmpolitiker auch offen. Sie erhofften sich durch die Re-Education Filme gezielt auf die deutsche Bevölkerung einwirken zu können, um die gewünschten Einstellungsveränderungen herbeizuführen (1. weg vom Nationalsozialismus, hin zur Demokratie, 2. Eingeständnis der Kollektivschuld an den begangenen/geduldeten Taten) Dies schien wohl erst einmal nur mit Schwarz/Weiß-Malerei möglich zu sein...
Ich behandele noch einen weiteren Film (Todesmühlen), aber den habe ich zum Glück auf deutsch vorrätig.
Darf ich heute noch einmal einen weiteren Teil zum Verbessern posten oder würde das die Hilfsbereitschaft übersteigen? (Den langen Mittelteil habe ich allein geschafft, aber gegen Ende sind noch einige Fragezeichen vorhanden.)
Bleibt nur noch die Frage, ob der Sprecher "But there is no privileged view" sagt oder irgendetwas komplett anderes.
Natürlich ist das ein Propagandafilm - dazu bekannten sich die amerikanischen Filmpolitiker auch offen. Sie erhofften sich durch die Re-Education Filme gezielt auf die deutsche Bevölkerung einwirken zu können, um die gewünschten Einstellungsveränderungen herbeizuführen (1. weg vom Nationalsozialismus, hin zur Demokratie, 2. Eingeständnis der Kollektivschuld an den begangenen/geduldeten Taten) Dies schien wohl erst einmal nur mit Schwarz/Weiß-Malerei möglich zu sein...
Ich behandele noch einen weiteren Film (Todesmühlen), aber den habe ich zum Glück auf deutsch vorrätig.
Darf ich heute noch einmal einen weiteren Teil zum Verbessern posten oder würde das die Hilfsbereitschaft übersteigen? (Den langen Mittelteil habe ich allein geschafft, aber gegen Ende sind noch einige Fragezeichen vorhanden.)
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Duckduck (Contributor)
Re: Exzerpieren des Films "Here is Germany" - bin am verzweifeln
Klar, sei nicht so bescheiden
, Du Maus! Immer her damit! 
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modestmouse23
Re: Exzerpieren des Films "Here is Germany" - bin am verzweifeln
Ok, hier kommt ein weiterer Teil. An der Menge der Fragezeichen sieht man, dass ich wirklich meine Probleme hatte. Vielleicht muss ich auch einfach nur mal wieder zum Ohrenarzt gehen?
Wird "Germany" als "she" bezeichnet? Das kam ein paar mal...
Karl Schmidt ist für die Amerikaner übrigens der prototypische Deutsche, den es in jeder Generation gibt. (Nur, falls ihr euch wundern solltet...)
Zeitlich befinden wir uns nun zwischen dem ersten und zweiten Weltkrieg...
ab Min. 29:45 - bis zum Schluss des Videos (Part 1):
Karl Schmidt would go back to the old tradition. The tradition of Frederick and Bismarck and the kaiser. The tradition of militarism and war. But wasn’t the Versailles treaty designed to prevent Karl Schmidt starting another war? Even if he wanted to? By this treaty the Germans agreed to …(?) the Gerneral Staff, to limit their army to a hundred thousand men, to hand over their fleet, to demilitarize the Rhineland and postwar …(?). They found themselves never again to build an airport or submarines. And to enforce (?) allied troops would occupy the west bank of the Rhine. The cologne sector for five years, the … (?) sector for ten, the …(?) sector for fifeteen. Further there was the League of Nations designed to prevent Germany or any other country from starting a war of aggression. Yet (?), only 20 years later the Karl Schmidt’s of our generation were on their way again for another try of (?) smashing the world into submission. How was Karl Schmidt able to rearm so quickly? Like every other country after the last war Germany faced hard times but in Germany careful manipulation made its results much worse for the millions of Karl Schmidts. Inflation made clever financiers rich who cancelled the huge death (?) of the big landowerns. It broke Karl Schmidt. Then came the depression. That caused him his job. So hunger was added to his resentments and bitterness. This was the moment for which the unholy …(?) waited (?). Now the militarists, the landowners, the state officials, the industrialists emerged (?) from their self…(?) Their plans were ready. Now they went to work. “What is the cause of your troubles?”, shouted …(?) of the …(?) – The treaty of Versailles. “Who signed the treaty?”, asked the reactionary newspapers. – The democrats. “And why are you starving …(?) , the …(?) came (?) – To pay for reparations. “Who started the war?”, asked the crown prince. – The French. “Who lost the war?”, asked Hindenburg. – The democrats. The communists. The traitors. And Karl Schmidt listens. He was hearing the story he wanted to hear. He was the victim of a vast conspiracy, he told himself. The world was against him. Once again he was being taught to hate (?), once again he was thirsting for revenge. And revenge was possible. …(?) the world allowed into tear up the Versailles treaty, clause by clause. Instead of enforcing it, we Americans refused to sign and withdrew our army of occupation after only nine months. The British, even though Germany was consistently violating, hold out after five years. The French made one final attempt to enforce the treaty and marched into the Ruhr but this made them so unpopular …(?) the world …(?) with heartbreaking German propaganda that they withdrew solemnly behind their …(?) Now, let’s see what would have happened if the treaty have been enforced. Without a General Staff Germany could not have planned World War II. …(?) the demilitarize Rhineland she (?) couldn’t have attacked France or the low countries. Without an airforce she (?) could not have …(?) Britain. With an army of a houndred thousand she could not have attacked the Soviet Union. Without submarines she could not have threatened (?) our own atlantic (?) The treaty of Versailles was not enforced. And that’s for the League of Nations we refused to join. And other countries paid it little more than …(?)
So once again the Germans began to march. Not on the open (?) first, but on the sky (?) mascerading his patriotic …(?) organisations. Or as the so called technical exhilarate call (?) formed to help in case of strike (?). Or …(?) which … the groups planning to protect citizens against communismn. Or in school – simply under the name of …(?) that all was under the supervision of army officers. The old German tradition was on his way back. But to the victorious …(?) the German leaders saying a different …(?). Peace, friendship, and a …(?) for help.
Von Papen: “Germanys fate – the fate of the world. Germanys distress, is a distress of the world. The prosperity of individual nations, is the prosperity of all.”
The Crown Prince: “I hope one day to come over to America and visit your beautiful country myself.”
General von Seeckt: “The German political and economical situation today is extremly difficult. This is the result, not only of having lost the war, but above all, the outcome of the fact that Germany’s former enemies are oppressing her above endurance.” And when the German leaders whined they were too poor to pay reparations, we believed them. Result: Not only did they not pay one penny, but they received additional billions ...(?). It didn’t occur to most of us that they would use this money tu build up their industry for another war. We began to sympathise with Karl Schmidt. Why should he suffer because his father started a war? Maybe the Versailles treaty wasn’t fair. Maybe the French had been too tough. Or maybe it was the British. Or maybe Wilson wasn’t very …(?). Once again we would determine (?) to see only the pleasant side of the German character. This clean and tidy people. This musical people. This industrious people. This historic country. This beautiful country. But behind this peaceful …(?) the Germans prepared again for aggression.
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Duckduck (Contributor)
Re: Exzerpieren des Films "Here is Germany" - bin am verzweifeln
modestmouse23 hat geschrieben: Ok, hier kommt ein weiterer Teil. An der Menge der Fragezeichen sieht man, dass ich wirklich meine Probleme hatte. Vielleicht muss ich auch einfach nur mal wieder zum Ohrenarzt gehen?Manchmal habe ich das Wort, das ich heraushöre, hingeschrieben, es aber trotzdem mit Fragezeichen versehen, weil ich mir nicht sicher war, ob das Sinn macht.
Wird "Germany" als "she" bezeichnet? Das kam ein paar mal... Ja, große Maschinen (Schiffe) und Länder kommen als weiblich daher, etwas angestaubt, aber immer noch üblich - in gewissen Kreisen.
Karl Schmidt ist für die Amerikaner übrigens der prototypische Deutsche, den es in jeder Generation gibt. (Nur, falls ihr euch wundern solltet...)![]()
Zeitlich befinden wir uns nun zwischen dem ersten und zweiten Weltkrieg...
ab Min. 29:45 - bis zum Schluss des Videos (Part 1):
Karl Schmidt would go back to the old tradition. The tradition of Frederick and Bismarck and the Kaiser. The tradition of militarism and war. But wasn’t the Versailles Treaty designed to prevent Karl Schmidt starting another war? Even if he wanted to? By this treaty the Germans agreed to disband the Gerneral Staff, to limit their army to a hundred thousand men, to hand over their fleet, to demilitarize the Rhineland and coastal fortifications???. They bound themselves never again to build an airport or submarines. And to enforce the treaty, allied troops would occupy the west bank of the Rhine. The Cologne sector for five years, the Koblenz sector for ten, the Mainz sector for fifeteen. Further, there was the League of Nations designed to prevent Germany or any other country from starting a war of aggression. Yet, only 20 years later the Karl Schmidts of our generation were on their way again for another trial of smashing the world into submission. How was Karl Schmidt able to rearm so quickly? Like every other country, after the last war Germany faced hard times. But in Germany careful manipulation made its results much worse for the millions of Karl Schmidts. Inflation made clever financiers rich and cancelled the huge debts of the big landowners. It broke Karl Schmidt. Then came the depression. That cost him his job. So hunger was added to his resentments and bitterness. This was the moment for which the unholy …(?) waited (?) Kann ich auch nicht verstehen, ich höre sowas wie four... had waited. Now the militarists, the landowners, the state officials, the industrialists emerged from their self-sought obscurity. Their plans were ready. Now they went to work. “What is the cause of your troubles?”, shouted Schacht of the Reichsbank – The Treaty of Versailles. “Who signed the treaty?”, asked the reactionary newspapers. – The democrats. “And why are you starving?" said Krupp the ammunition king – To pay for reparations. “Who started the war?”, asked the Crown Prince. – The French. “Who lost the war?”, asked Hindenburg. – The democrats. The communists. The traitors. And Karl Schmidt listened. He was hearing the story he wanted to hear. He was the victim of a vast conspiracy, he told himself. The world was against him. Once again he was being taught to hate, once again he was thirsting for revenge. And revenge was possible because the world allowed him to tear up the Versailles Treaty, clause by clause. Instead of enforcing it, we Americans refused to sign it and withdrew our army of occupation after only nine months. The British, even though Germany was consistently violating it, pulled out after five years. The French made one final attempt to enforce the treaty and marched into the Ruhr but this made them so unpopular with the world …(?) with heartbreaking German propaganda that they withdrew solemnly behind their marginal lines??? Now, let’s see what would have happened had the treatyhavebeen enforced. Without a General Staff Germany could not have planned World War II. From the demilitarized Rhineland she couldn’t have attacked France or the Low Countries. Without an airforce she could not have blitzed Britain. With an army of a houndred thousand she could not have attacked the Soviet Union. Without submarines she could not have threatened our own Atlantic (?). The Treaty of Versailles was not enforced. And as for the League of Nations, we refused to join. And other countries paid it little more than lip service.
So once again the Germans began to march. Not in the open at first, but on disguised drill-fields mascerading his patriotic …(?) organisations. Or as the so called Technical Auxiliary Corps formed to help in case of strike. Or as the Einwohnerwehr…(?) which … the groups planning to protect citizens against communismn. Or in school – simply under the name of …(?) but always under the supervision of army officers. The old German tradition was on its way back. But to the victorious alliance the German leaders sang a different tune. Peace, friendship, and a piteous cry for help.
Von Papen: “Germany's fate – the fate of the world. Germany's distress, is a distress of the world. The prosperity of individual nations, is the prosperity of all.”
The Crown Prince: “I hope one day to come over to America and visit your beautiful country myself.”
General von Seeckt: “The German political and economical situation today is extremly difficult. This is the result, not only of having lost the world war, but above all, the outcome of the fact that Germany’s former enemies are oppressing her above endurance.” And when the German leaders whined they were too poor to pay reparations, we believed them. Result: Not only did they not pay one penny, but they received additional billions granted them in loans. It didn’t occur to most of us that they would use this money tu build up their industry for another war. We began to sympathise with Karl Schmidt. Why should he suffer because his father started a war? Maybe the Versailles Treaty wasn’t fair. Maybe the French had been too tough. Or maybe it was the British. Or maybe Wilson wasn’t very …(?). Once again we were determined to see only the pleasant side of the German character. This clean and tidy people. This musical people. This industrious people. This historic country. This beautiful country. But behind this peaceful facade the Germans prepared again for aggression.
Puuh, nicht ganz einfach. Leider konnte ich auch nicht alles verstehen, aber doch immerhin das meiste. Bei ein paar Wörtern war ich mir auch nicht ganz sicher.
Good luck says
Duckduck
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Duckduck (Contributor)
Re: Exzerpieren des Films "Here is Germany" - bin am verzweifeln
Noch zwei Änderungen! Wer lesen kann, ist klar im Vorteil,Duckduck hat geschrieben:that they withdrew solemnly behind the Maginot-Linemascerading as patriotic veteran organisations.
Duckduck
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Delfino
Re: Exzerpieren des Films "Here is Germany" - bin am verzweifeln
Ohne den Link zur Quelle ist es schwierig Fehler zu finden ...
Here is Germany (1945)
http://www.archive.org/details/HERE_IS_GERMANY
Here is Germany (1945)
http://www.archive.org/details/HERE_IS_GERMANY
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modestmouse23
Re: Exzerpieren des Films "Here is Germany" - bin am verzweifeln
@Delfino Ich hatte den Link gepostet. Gleich im ersten Beitrag. Ich weiß auch nicht, wo der hin ist... Wurde er wohl gelöscht, weil er am Anfang zu grauenhafte Szenen beinhaltel?
Hier ist auf jeden Fall der Link zum zweiten Teil: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 8226924319 (Hier gibt es so gut wie keine Gräuelbilder, ich hoffe, er kann stehen bleiben.)
Weil es so schön war, poste ich an dieser Stelle den letzten Teil meiner Bemühungen. Ich bin dir - Duckduck - wirklich sooooooo dankbar für deine Hilfe, das glaubst du gar nicht.
And as Germany began to rearm its leaders plan the death blow for the German republic. True, they had already taken it over for their purposes and (stoling the age…?) of von Hindenburg as president. But it was still in structure of democracy. And that meant liberals and unions and free speech and a free opposition. And the German leaders knew what Frederick, Bismarck and the Kaiser had known: That you can’t start ruthless aggression abroad without ruthless discipline at home. Therefore the time had come for the republic to be eliminated. To achieve this they needed a tool with which to appeal …(?) Germans old passion: the superiority and conquest. Not a feudal monarch this time like Frederick, not an …(?) landowner like Bismarck or an …(?) like the Kaiser, but an ex-…(?) of the German army with a fanatic glint in his eye and the power to enthuse …(?)Preaching the same old doctrin as his predecessors, the old doctrin that had never failed to enthuse (?) the German people. Himself, jobless, uneducated, cowardly, resentful, Hitler gathered around the misfits like himself. People obsessed with …(?), … imaginary (?), people who weren’t …(?) as they thought they should be, people with a …(?) complex who wanted to shout for the crowd. People who wanted power but were too lazy to work for it.She (?) anxious to be …(?), …(?), perverts, bullies, cranks. Unfortunately those Germans who were liberally minded regarded Hitler as either a joke or …(?). But the German nationalists well knew its possibilities. They knew that he was capable of administering the death blow to the German republic. Forging (?) the German people into a single mold. By the monarchists who saw in him the chance to restore the Hohenzollerns to the throne. Backed by big business who saw in him the chance of economic domination of the world. Backed by thousands of ordinary Germans who saw in him their chance to …conquer …(?) arcross the world. With the backing of all these groups Hitler …(?)Skillfully appealing to the German tradition, the old trial of the master race, the Nazis …(?) store things to all men (?).To the workers they promised higher wages, to the employers lower wages, to the attendants they promised lower rates, to the landlords higher rates, to the farmers higher prices, to the consumer lower prices. But most of all they promised revenge on the wolrd, that Germany would become its most powerful empire. Hitler knew his audience and by 1933 the Nazis received more votes than any other political party. And von Hindenburg …(?) Hitler as his leader, as German chancellor. This was the death blow the nationalists have planned. From that moment the German republic was dead. Four weeks later the Nazis set fire to the Reichstag and screamed that the crime has been committed by the communists. Using this as an excuse Hitler declared the state of emergency and assumed dictatorial powers. From this it was only a step to the abolition of all political parties. In the new Reichstag there was only one party: Hitler’s party. In the new Reichstag there was no debate, the deputies were …(?) who applauded, …(?), went home. Trade unions were abolished, instead the German Labour Front to discipline the workers and teach them what to think: music, literature, all …(?) destory, unless it’s supported what the German leaders were trying to sell. Scientists, physicians - their professions were banned to them unless they supported the Nazi ideology. Bismarck had added the industrialists as the 4[sup]th[/sup] pillar of the warlike state, Hitler added a 5[sup]th[/sup]: the professional gangsters, armed folks to enforce his …(?) And if a German officer had been the ideal of the Kaiser’s Germany, the storm trooper became the ideal of Hitler’s. Persecution was on the march. Freedom of speech? Now that meant the concentration camp. Torture, death. Freedom of religion? Riots and church burnings. Freedom of opinion? The execution …axe (?). Freedom of the press? The Gestapo took care of that. Now Karl Schmidt …(?) indoctrinated like his father and his grandfather before him. But this time even more …(?). More …(?) with all the resources of science in the modern state. The German press became a Nazi press. The German airwaves opened only to Nazi voices. Nazi papers, Nazi books, Nazi pamphlets, this were all the people agreed (?). Nazi speeches, Nazi dramas, Nazi music – these were all the people could hear. The art of Germany, the sculpture, the paintings, the drama – all regimented to serve one purpose: the indoctrination of Karl Schmidt. One voice only must be heard by Karl Schmidt, one voice from the cradle to the grave, the voice of Hitler. Hitler, Hitler. Scores (?) of microphones and cameras were used to photograph Hitler and recorded his voice so that all in Germany and others throughout the world could receive this message of …(?) and hypocrisy (?) So Hitler was photographed, from the front, from the back, from the right, from the left, from every angle. Hitler. Hitler, Hitler.Hitler ...(?), Hitler smiling, Hitler shouting, Hitler working his people into …(?).Hitler: “In my schools a youth will grow up before which the world will shrink back.”, “There must be no tenderness in youth. I want to see in their eyes the gleam of the beast of prey.”, “Brutality is respected. I shall spread terror.”, “Today Germany, tomorrow the world.”That’s how Karl Schmidt got his soul. That’s how the General Staff, the big industrialists, the state officials, the landowners, the gangster chieftains put their plans into a fact and prepared Karl Schmidt for his generations attempt to smash the world into submission. That’s how Karl Schmidt was trained for conquest. Just as his father was trained by the leaders of his generation. And his father before him. Each generation accepting and adding to the German tradition. A tradition of ruthlessness and medieval barbarism, the tradition of a master race, the tradition of German superiority, the false picture of the world inside German heads. These are some of the explanations for the murdered Poles in Lublin, the murdered Italians in Rome, the murdered Belgians at Baugnez, the murdered Americans at Mamledy. And these are the reasons why in our generation nearly 30 million men have had to die. Because deep in the soul of Karl Schmidt has been planted the love of aggression and conquest. And unless that …(?) ten, twenty or hundred years …(?) a new generation of Germans will find a new leader who will show them the way. How shall that be prevented? A sound (?) beginning has been made, this time things are being done differently. At the end of the last war: an armistice by (?) negotiation. This time: unconditional surrender. Today Karl Schmidt knows beyond the shadow of a doubt that he was defeated. At the end of the last war: German armies were parading through Berlin. This time: (man sieht Alliierte)
The legend of German invincibility lies (?) once and for all a shattered myth. After the last war the German General Staff continued to function, today not only the General Staff but the entire German officers corps will be dissolved and they will be forever prevented from planning another German attempt to world conquest. After the last war German industry was …(?), today much of it lies in ruins and such undamaged industrial …(?) are permitted to (?), will …(?) under allied control. After the last war the same state officials remained in office, today any Nazi is forever …(?) from having a …(?). After the last war the Kaiser found refuge in Holland and anyone else who thought they were in any danger ran away. Today …(?) war criminals must answer for their crime. After the last war German education was untouched. Today all Nazi doctrinists has been destroyed. New text books prepared for German youth - under our direction, not the Germans’. After the last war this small area of Germany was occupied. Today every square inch is under the authority of allied troops. At the end of the last war this was the government of Germany. Today this is the government.
We have come to Germany not as liberators, but as conquerors. And this time we shall remain: For ten years, for twenty, if necessary forever. Karl Schmidt himself will determine how long. But we shall not leave until Karl Schmidt has come to realize that he himself is responsible - for not only the past, but the future. We have rid him of Hitler and the General Staff, a nazism, a militarism. But we have not rid him of Frederick and Bismarck and the Kaiser, of his history and his tradition. That he must do for himself. Until he does, he is still a potential enemy of civilisation. Only when he does can he take his place in the society of men. Then and then only will the German farmer, the German mailman, the German cop be like the folks back home. Then and then only can beautiful Germany, industrious Germany, cultured Germany join the peaceful nations of the world.
Hier ist auf jeden Fall der Link zum zweiten Teil: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 8226924319 (Hier gibt es so gut wie keine Gräuelbilder, ich hoffe, er kann stehen bleiben.)
Weil es so schön war, poste ich an dieser Stelle den letzten Teil meiner Bemühungen. Ich bin dir - Duckduck - wirklich sooooooo dankbar für deine Hilfe, das glaubst du gar nicht.
And as Germany began to rearm its leaders plan the death blow for the German republic. True, they had already taken it over for their purposes and (stoling the age…?) of von Hindenburg as president. But it was still in structure of democracy. And that meant liberals and unions and free speech and a free opposition. And the German leaders knew what Frederick, Bismarck and the Kaiser had known: That you can’t start ruthless aggression abroad without ruthless discipline at home. Therefore the time had come for the republic to be eliminated. To achieve this they needed a tool with which to appeal …(?) Germans old passion: the superiority and conquest. Not a feudal monarch this time like Frederick, not an …(?) landowner like Bismarck or an …(?) like the Kaiser, but an ex-…(?) of the German army with a fanatic glint in his eye and the power to enthuse …(?)Preaching the same old doctrin as his predecessors, the old doctrin that had never failed to enthuse (?) the German people. Himself, jobless, uneducated, cowardly, resentful, Hitler gathered around the misfits like himself. People obsessed with …(?), … imaginary (?), people who weren’t …(?) as they thought they should be, people with a …(?) complex who wanted to shout for the crowd. People who wanted power but were too lazy to work for it.She (?) anxious to be …(?), …(?), perverts, bullies, cranks. Unfortunately those Germans who were liberally minded regarded Hitler as either a joke or …(?). But the German nationalists well knew its possibilities. They knew that he was capable of administering the death blow to the German republic. Forging (?) the German people into a single mold. By the monarchists who saw in him the chance to restore the Hohenzollerns to the throne. Backed by big business who saw in him the chance of economic domination of the world. Backed by thousands of ordinary Germans who saw in him their chance to …conquer …(?) arcross the world. With the backing of all these groups Hitler …(?)Skillfully appealing to the German tradition, the old trial of the master race, the Nazis …(?) store things to all men (?).To the workers they promised higher wages, to the employers lower wages, to the attendants they promised lower rates, to the landlords higher rates, to the farmers higher prices, to the consumer lower prices. But most of all they promised revenge on the wolrd, that Germany would become its most powerful empire. Hitler knew his audience and by 1933 the Nazis received more votes than any other political party. And von Hindenburg …(?) Hitler as his leader, as German chancellor. This was the death blow the nationalists have planned. From that moment the German republic was dead. Four weeks later the Nazis set fire to the Reichstag and screamed that the crime has been committed by the communists. Using this as an excuse Hitler declared the state of emergency and assumed dictatorial powers. From this it was only a step to the abolition of all political parties. In the new Reichstag there was only one party: Hitler’s party. In the new Reichstag there was no debate, the deputies were …(?) who applauded, …(?), went home. Trade unions were abolished, instead the German Labour Front to discipline the workers and teach them what to think: music, literature, all …(?) destory, unless it’s supported what the German leaders were trying to sell. Scientists, physicians - their professions were banned to them unless they supported the Nazi ideology. Bismarck had added the industrialists as the 4[sup]th[/sup] pillar of the warlike state, Hitler added a 5[sup]th[/sup]: the professional gangsters, armed folks to enforce his …(?) And if a German officer had been the ideal of the Kaiser’s Germany, the storm trooper became the ideal of Hitler’s. Persecution was on the march. Freedom of speech? Now that meant the concentration camp. Torture, death. Freedom of religion? Riots and church burnings. Freedom of opinion? The execution …axe (?). Freedom of the press? The Gestapo took care of that. Now Karl Schmidt …(?) indoctrinated like his father and his grandfather before him. But this time even more …(?). More …(?) with all the resources of science in the modern state. The German press became a Nazi press. The German airwaves opened only to Nazi voices. Nazi papers, Nazi books, Nazi pamphlets, this were all the people agreed (?). Nazi speeches, Nazi dramas, Nazi music – these were all the people could hear. The art of Germany, the sculpture, the paintings, the drama – all regimented to serve one purpose: the indoctrination of Karl Schmidt. One voice only must be heard by Karl Schmidt, one voice from the cradle to the grave, the voice of Hitler. Hitler, Hitler. Scores (?) of microphones and cameras were used to photograph Hitler and recorded his voice so that all in Germany and others throughout the world could receive this message of …(?) and hypocrisy (?) So Hitler was photographed, from the front, from the back, from the right, from the left, from every angle. Hitler. Hitler, Hitler.Hitler ...(?), Hitler smiling, Hitler shouting, Hitler working his people into …(?).Hitler: “In my schools a youth will grow up before which the world will shrink back.”, “There must be no tenderness in youth. I want to see in their eyes the gleam of the beast of prey.”, “Brutality is respected. I shall spread terror.”, “Today Germany, tomorrow the world.”That’s how Karl Schmidt got his soul. That’s how the General Staff, the big industrialists, the state officials, the landowners, the gangster chieftains put their plans into a fact and prepared Karl Schmidt for his generations attempt to smash the world into submission. That’s how Karl Schmidt was trained for conquest. Just as his father was trained by the leaders of his generation. And his father before him. Each generation accepting and adding to the German tradition. A tradition of ruthlessness and medieval barbarism, the tradition of a master race, the tradition of German superiority, the false picture of the world inside German heads. These are some of the explanations for the murdered Poles in Lublin, the murdered Italians in Rome, the murdered Belgians at Baugnez, the murdered Americans at Mamledy. And these are the reasons why in our generation nearly 30 million men have had to die. Because deep in the soul of Karl Schmidt has been planted the love of aggression and conquest. And unless that …(?) ten, twenty or hundred years …(?) a new generation of Germans will find a new leader who will show them the way. How shall that be prevented? A sound (?) beginning has been made, this time things are being done differently. At the end of the last war: an armistice by (?) negotiation. This time: unconditional surrender. Today Karl Schmidt knows beyond the shadow of a doubt that he was defeated. At the end of the last war: German armies were parading through Berlin. This time: (man sieht Alliierte)
The legend of German invincibility lies (?) once and for all a shattered myth. After the last war the German General Staff continued to function, today not only the General Staff but the entire German officers corps will be dissolved and they will be forever prevented from planning another German attempt to world conquest. After the last war German industry was …(?), today much of it lies in ruins and such undamaged industrial …(?) are permitted to (?), will …(?) under allied control. After the last war the same state officials remained in office, today any Nazi is forever …(?) from having a …(?). After the last war the Kaiser found refuge in Holland and anyone else who thought they were in any danger ran away. Today …(?) war criminals must answer for their crime. After the last war German education was untouched. Today all Nazi doctrinists has been destroyed. New text books prepared for German youth - under our direction, not the Germans’. After the last war this small area of Germany was occupied. Today every square inch is under the authority of allied troops. At the end of the last war this was the government of Germany. Today this is the government.
We have come to Germany not as liberators, but as conquerors. And this time we shall remain: For ten years, for twenty, if necessary forever. Karl Schmidt himself will determine how long. But we shall not leave until Karl Schmidt has come to realize that he himself is responsible - for not only the past, but the future. We have rid him of Hitler and the General Staff, a nazism, a militarism. But we have not rid him of Frederick and Bismarck and the Kaiser, of his history and his tradition. That he must do for himself. Until he does, he is still a potential enemy of civilisation. Only when he does can he take his place in the society of men. Then and then only will the German farmer, the German mailman, the German cop be like the folks back home. Then and then only can beautiful Germany, industrious Germany, cultured Germany join the peaceful nations of the world.
Zuletzt geändert von modestmouse23 am 2. Aug 2010 15:58, insgesamt 1-mal geändert.
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caro64
Re: Exzerpieren des Films "Here is Germany" - bin am verzweifeln
@modestmouse23 your forgiven
and yes I understand German very well.
This was the moment for which the unholy quartet had waited
This was the moment for which the unholy quartet had waited