Hi, ich muss für Englisch ein kleines Referat schreiben. Kann das bitte jemand auf Fehler und Ausdrucksschwächen überprüfen. Die Quelle ist: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skinheads
History of Skinheads
Skinheads, named after their shaven heads, are members of a subculture that originated in Britain in the 1960s, where they were closely tied to the Rude Boys of the West Indies and the Mods of the U.K. In the public the word skinhead is used as a synonym for neo-Nazi also if they are no skinheads.
The skinhead- movement started in 1969. They originated from white working-class children in east London- a working class district- who grew up with the children of black immigrant from Jamaica and other west Indies. They got to know by the same interest on black music- first Calypso, then Ska, at last by the so called Skinhead-Reggae. At first Rude boys and Mods became “Hard- Mods”. They confined from the fashion- conscious Mods and hippies. The first skinheads wore smart clothes like the Mods. After separation the clothes were changed with the now known working- class outfit. Today they are not as aggressive as previous. Black and white skins fought especially against Pakistan immigrants because they didn´t defend against anyone. Skinheads were part of the hooligans who fought for their club during football matches and so they do today. At the begin of 1970 the black skins turned more and more to the political reggae- scene and isolated from the white culture. One reason was the reggae- war in some discos about titles like “young black and gifted” which white skinheads couldn´t identify to and so they boycotted them. Some skinheads let they hair grow longer to separate from the skinheads and called themselves sudeheads. The political very various skinheads began to separate into right-winged, left-winged and traditional skinheads. The right-winged skins became more and more. It was mainly set on by the National Front and British National Party. The media launched into it very soon and the neo- fascists began to steel the skinhead- look. At the begin of the 80s there were more and more Nazi-skins- by skinheads just named boneheads. They were the most known “skins”, so lots of people thought that every skinhead is like them. There were also skins who demonstrated against racism but the media didn´t tell about it. As a reaction against this stereotype all skinheads are neo-Nazi 1988 S.H.A.R.P.(SkinHeads Against Racial Prejudice) was established in NYC. Today the skinheads can be divided into these categories: Traditional skins (some of them say Trojan skins, named after a Ska-label) S.H.A.R.P. skins, left winged redskins, RASH-skins (Red and Anarchist SkinHeads) Oi!-skins and Boneheads who often are no really skins. Oi!-skins have much intersection with punks; lots of Oi!- skins were punks.
For skinheads alcohol is very important and so they drink a lot of beer on concerts or other meetings. Other drugs, especially hard ones are declined by most skinheads.
Danke für eure mühe.
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Robert
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boert
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History of Skinheads
Skinheads, named after their shaved heads, are member of a subculture that was originated in Britain in the 1960s, where they were closely connected to the Rude Boys of the West Indies and the Mods of the U.K. In public the word skinhead is also used as a synonym for "Neo-Nazi" even if they are no skinheads.
The skinhead- movement started in 1969. They originated from the white working-class as Children in east London- a working class district- grew up with children of black immigrants from Jamaica and other west Indies. (They got to know by the same interest on black music?) - first Calypso, then Ska, at last by the so called Skinhead-Reggae.
At first Rude boys and Mods became “Hard- Mods”. They confined from the fashion-conscious Mods and hippies. The first skinheads wore smart clothes like the Mods. After separation, the clothes were changed with the now known working-class outfit.
Today they are not as aggressive as the have been before. Black and white skins fought especially against Pakistan immigrants because they didn´t defend against anyone. Skinheads were part of the hooligan-scene who fought for their club during football matches and still do today. In the early 1970's the black skins turned more and more into a political reggae- scene and isolated theirselves from the white culture.
One reason was the reggae-war in some discos about titles like “young black and gifted” which white skinheads couldn´t identify with and so they boycotted them.
Some skinheads let they hair grow longer to separate from the skinheads and called themselves sudeheads. The political very various skinheads began to separate into right-winged, left-winged and traditional skinheads. The right-winged skins became more and more. It was mainly set on by the National Front and British National Party.
The media (launched into it?) very soon and the neo- fascists began to adopt the skinhead- look. At the beginning of the 80s there were more and more Nazi-skins - called boneheads.
They were the most known “skins”, so lots of people thought that every skinhead were like them. There were also skins who demonstrated against racism but the media didn´t report about it. As a reaction against this stereotype that all skinheads were neo-Nazi in 1988 S.H.A.R.P.(SkinHeads Against Racial Prejudice) was established in NYC.
Today the skinheads can be separated into these categories:
Traditional skins (some of them say Trojan skins, named after a Ska-label) S.H.A.R.P. skins, left winged redskins, RASH-skins (Red and Anarchist SkinHeads) Oi!-skins and Boneheads who often are not really skins.
Oi!-skins have much intersection with punks; lots of Oi!- skins were punks.
For skinheads alcohol is very important and so they drink a lot of beer on concerts or other meetings. Other drugs, especially hard ones are declined by most skinheads.
Hast du vor, Wiki als Quelle anzugeben?
Ich finds mutig, einfach einen Text 1:1 zu übersetzen und den als das eigene Referat auszugeben
Skinheads, named after their shaved heads, are member of a subculture that was originated in Britain in the 1960s, where they were closely connected to the Rude Boys of the West Indies and the Mods of the U.K. In public the word skinhead is also used as a synonym for "Neo-Nazi" even if they are no skinheads.
The skinhead- movement started in 1969. They originated from the white working-class as Children in east London- a working class district- grew up with children of black immigrants from Jamaica and other west Indies. (They got to know by the same interest on black music?) - first Calypso, then Ska, at last by the so called Skinhead-Reggae.
At first Rude boys and Mods became “Hard- Mods”. They confined from the fashion-conscious Mods and hippies. The first skinheads wore smart clothes like the Mods. After separation, the clothes were changed with the now known working-class outfit.
Today they are not as aggressive as the have been before. Black and white skins fought especially against Pakistan immigrants because they didn´t defend against anyone. Skinheads were part of the hooligan-scene who fought for their club during football matches and still do today. In the early 1970's the black skins turned more and more into a political reggae- scene and isolated theirselves from the white culture.
One reason was the reggae-war in some discos about titles like “young black and gifted” which white skinheads couldn´t identify with and so they boycotted them.
Some skinheads let they hair grow longer to separate from the skinheads and called themselves sudeheads. The political very various skinheads began to separate into right-winged, left-winged and traditional skinheads. The right-winged skins became more and more. It was mainly set on by the National Front and British National Party.
The media (launched into it?) very soon and the neo- fascists began to adopt the skinhead- look. At the beginning of the 80s there were more and more Nazi-skins - called boneheads.
They were the most known “skins”, so lots of people thought that every skinhead were like them. There were also skins who demonstrated against racism but the media didn´t report about it. As a reaction against this stereotype that all skinheads were neo-Nazi in 1988 S.H.A.R.P.(SkinHeads Against Racial Prejudice) was established in NYC.
Today the skinheads can be separated into these categories:
Traditional skins (some of them say Trojan skins, named after a Ska-label) S.H.A.R.P. skins, left winged redskins, RASH-skins (Red and Anarchist SkinHeads) Oi!-skins and Boneheads who often are not really skins.
Oi!-skins have much intersection with punks; lots of Oi!- skins were punks.
For skinheads alcohol is very important and so they drink a lot of beer on concerts or other meetings. Other drugs, especially hard ones are declined by most skinheads.
Kein Thema.
Danke für eure mühe.
Hast du vor, Wiki als Quelle anzugeben?
Ich finds mutig, einfach einen Text 1:1 zu übersetzen und den als das eigene Referat auszugeben
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Nooooob
Hi,
Ich würd das nicht machen, du kannst nämlich einen Satz aus deinem Referat bei Google eingeben und zack spuckt dir Google das ganze Teil aus. Da die meisten Autoren ihre Artikle selbst auch noch übersetzten, kann es sein das dein Lehrer deinen Vortrag nicht mal übersetzten braucht. Also wollte das bloß mal los werden. Jaaa da bewegst du dich auf sehr dünnem Eis.....
Ich würd das nicht machen, du kannst nämlich einen Satz aus deinem Referat bei Google eingeben und zack spuckt dir Google das ganze Teil aus. Da die meisten Autoren ihre Artikle selbst auch noch übersetzten, kann es sein das dein Lehrer deinen Vortrag nicht mal übersetzten braucht. Also wollte das bloß mal los werden
. Jaaa da bewegst du dich auf sehr dünnem Eis.....-
Gast
Re: Referat- bitte korrigieren
boert hat geschrieben: Ich finds mutig, einfach einen Text 1:1 zu übersetzen und den als das eigene Referat auszugeben
Noooob hat geschrieben: Ich würd das nicht machen, du kannst nämlich einen Satz aus deinem Referat bei Google eingeben und zack spuckt dir Google das ganze Teil aus. Da die meisten Autoren ihre Artikle selbst auch noch übersetzten, kann es sein das dein Lehrer deinen Vortrag nicht mal übersetzten braucht. Also wollte das bloß mal los werden . Jaaa da bewegst du dich auf sehr dünnem Eis.....
Hat er doch überhaupt nicht - "wikipedia" ist nur seine Quelle und er hat nichts 1:1 übernommen sondern frei sein eigenes Referat geschrieben.
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boert
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Robert
Hi, danke für eure Hilfe.
nein, ich gebe keine Quelle an. Aber ich glaube das war ne gute Übung für mich, zumindest fand ich es schwer. Außerdem hat sie nicht genug Zeit das alles so genau durchzugucken. Wir hatten das nämlich alle auf den letzten moment hinausgezögert um nicht dranzukommen, jetzt mussten wir das entweder schriftlcih machen odere ne 6 kriegen
Ich hab aber noch ein paar fragen:
das erste ist das verbesserte das zweite meins:
shaved: shaven: Soviel ich weiß ist doch to shave unregelmäßig, oder? ich bin mir nicht merh hundertpro sicher aber es kommt mir so vor als wäre shaven richtig.
The white working-class as children White working-class children
damit meinte ich weiße Arbeiterkinder. Das andere hört sich für mich wie "sie entstanden aus der weißen arbeiterklasse ALS Kinder... Das mit dem The kann ich ja verstehen aber das andere kommt mir komisch vor...
grew up with children of black immigrants from Jamaica and other west Indies.
who grew up with the children of black immigrant from Jamaica and other west Indies.
Das who sollte sich da auf die children beziehen. Kann man im Englischen nichts einfach mit Bindestrichen einschieben?(so wie im Post von Boert: Vergleich mal den Wiki-Artikel - vor allem den Geschichtsteil - mit seinem Text...) Im Deutschen geht es ja, ich dachte das könnte man auch im Englischen machen.
(They got to know by the same interest on black music?)
They got to know by the same interest on black music- first Calypso, then Ska, at last by the so called Skinhead-Reggae.
wieso muss das in Klammern?
into a political reggae- scene ______ to the political reggae- scene
soviel ich weiß heißt es doch die Szene und nicht die Szenen(wie beim theater). Ist das im Englischen anders?
The media (launched into it?) very soon and the neo- fascists began to adopt the skinhead- look.
The media launched into it very soon and the neo- fascists began to steel the skinhead- look.
launched into it: ich habe bei leo.org gesucht und da stand es für: sich auf etwas stürzen.
kann man das steel so lassen um es zu werten?
Bitte fass es nicht als Kritik auf boert, ich möchte es nur nicht einfach übernehmen, sondern auch wissen was genau ich da falsch gemacht habe. Andernfalls mache ich ja nächstes mal die gleichen Fehler.
Es wäre nett wenn mir das noch einer bis heute Abend erklären kann, ich muss es ja morgen abgeben.
ciao Robert
nein, ich gebe keine Quelle an. Aber ich glaube das war ne gute Übung für mich, zumindest fand ich es schwer. Außerdem hat sie nicht genug Zeit das alles so genau durchzugucken. Wir hatten das nämlich alle auf den letzten moment hinausgezögert um nicht dranzukommen, jetzt mussten wir das entweder schriftlcih machen odere ne 6 kriegen
Ich hab aber noch ein paar fragen:
das erste ist das verbesserte das zweite meins:
shaved: shaven: Soviel ich weiß ist doch to shave unregelmäßig, oder? ich bin mir nicht merh hundertpro sicher aber es kommt mir so vor als wäre shaven richtig.
The white working-class as children White working-class children
damit meinte ich weiße Arbeiterkinder. Das andere hört sich für mich wie "sie entstanden aus der weißen arbeiterklasse ALS Kinder... Das mit dem The kann ich ja verstehen aber das andere kommt mir komisch vor...
grew up with children of black immigrants from Jamaica and other west Indies.
who grew up with the children of black immigrant from Jamaica and other west Indies.
Das who sollte sich da auf die children beziehen. Kann man im Englischen nichts einfach mit Bindestrichen einschieben?(so wie im Post von Boert: Vergleich mal den Wiki-Artikel - vor allem den Geschichtsteil - mit seinem Text...) Im Deutschen geht es ja, ich dachte das könnte man auch im Englischen machen.
(They got to know by the same interest on black music?)
They got to know by the same interest on black music- first Calypso, then Ska, at last by the so called Skinhead-Reggae.
wieso muss das in Klammern?
into a political reggae- scene ______ to the political reggae- scene
soviel ich weiß heißt es doch die Szene und nicht die Szenen(wie beim theater). Ist das im Englischen anders?
The media (launched into it?) very soon and the neo- fascists began to adopt the skinhead- look.
The media launched into it very soon and the neo- fascists began to steel the skinhead- look.
launched into it: ich habe bei leo.org gesucht und da stand es für: sich auf etwas stürzen.
kann man das steel so lassen um es zu werten?
Bitte fass es nicht als Kritik auf boert, ich möchte es nur nicht einfach übernehmen, sondern auch wissen was genau ich da falsch gemacht habe. Andernfalls mache ich ja nächstes mal die gleichen Fehler.
Es wäre nett wenn mir das noch einer bis heute Abend erklären kann, ich muss es ja morgen abgeben.
ciao Robert