Hi there,
I have a question which is always irritated me in writing English
Passive voice, in some sentences are straightforward others I think bit complicated
e.g active voice in this case. It does work and passive voice is, work is done. It is simple and understood. Case. 2 is, it collects and passive voice, is to be collected... why not is collected instead of, To be collected, my question is, to be, is compulsory with some verbs in passive voice form if yes I would be grateful to teach some of them here
Thank you
bitte erklaeren wenn Sie wissen
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tiorthan
Re: bitte erklaeren wenn Sie wissen
Nope, that's not the passive voice. The passive voice, as you suggested, would be "is collected".khan hat geschrieben: passive voice, is to be collected...
The construction is really "is to + past participle" which is a modal construction stating somthing along the lines of must or should or is supposed to. In your example you have not the passive of the verb itself but the passive of this modal construction.
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khan
Re: bitte erklaeren wenn Sie wissen
Really appreciated, confusion reduced... however i will still ask you for more explanations and example if you have time and willing to.
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Duckduck (Contributor)
Re: bitte erklaeren wenn Sie wissen
tiorthan hat geschrieben:khan hat geschrieben: passive voice, is to be collected...The construction is really "is to + past participle"
I'm afraid I don't quite agree with this, tiorthan. Quite simply because: Where is your "be"?
I say: It should sit before the past participle and together they form a passive infinitive. Said passive infinitive can be used with all kinds of modals and this is exactly what "be to do sth." is.
For "be to do sth" check here if you please: especially 3 to 5
http://www.ldoceonline.com/dictionary/be_1
For modal auxiliaries and passive infinitive check here:
http://novatores.com/grammar/pv_auxv_plus_passinf.htm
Cheers
Duckduck
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tiorthan
Re: bitte erklaeren wenn Sie wissen
Oops, my mistake, I intended to write "is to + infinitive" but then mixed it up with the past participle used in forming the passive.Duckduck hat geschrieben: I'm afraid I don't quite agree with this, tiorthan. Quite simply because: Where is your "be"?